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Saŋyutta Nikaya
Nidāna Vagga

Sutta 64
Atthirāgasuttaṃ

Where there is Lust

Translated from the Pali by Michael Olds

 


 

[1][pts][wp][ati] I HEAR TELL:

The Lucky Man, Sāvatthī-town residing.

[2][pts][wp][ati] Four, me beggars are the foods on which living beings stand
or for assisting those seeking birth.

[3][pts][wp][ati] What four?

Edible Food for one;
Sense Stimulation for a second;
Intention for a third, and
Consciousness for a fourth.

These four, beggars, are the foods on which living beings stand
or for assisting those seeking birth.

[4][pts][wp][ati] Where there is lust, beggars, for edible food,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.[1]
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[5][pts][wp][ati] Where there is lust, beggars, for the food that is sense stimulation,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[6][pts][ati] Where there is lust, beggars, for the food that is intention,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[7][pts][ati] Where there is lust, beggars, for the food that is consciousness,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[8][pts][wp][ati] In the same way, beggars
as the dyer or the artist
if there be dye of blood-red
or deep yellow
or deep blue
or light red
[102] and a well-polished slate
or a wall
or turban-cloth
could create thereon
the shape of a woman
or the shape of a man
with all it's limbs.

[9][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is lust for edible food,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[10][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is lust for the food that is sense stimulation,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[11][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is lust for the food that is intention,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[12][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is lust for the food that is consciousness,
where there is delight,
where there is hunger and thirst,
this results in a stand for the growth of consciousness.

Where there is a stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is the appearance of name and form.
Where there is the appearance of name and form,
then there is the sowing of own-making.
Where there is the sowing of own-making,
then there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is scope for birth, aging and death,
it is with grief beggars, with fear, it is not without trouble, say I.

[13][pts][wp][ati] Where there is no lust, beggars, for edible food,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[14][pts][ati] Where there is no lust, beggars, for the food that is sense stimulation,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[15][pts][ati] Where there is no lust, beggars, for the food that is intention,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[16][pts][ati] Where there is no lust, beggars, for the food that is consciousness,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[17][pts][wp][ati] In the same way, beggars,
as in a peaked-roof building
or a room in a peaked-roof building[2]
with windows to the North
and South
and East
at sunrise
the sun's rays
entering through the window
stand reflecting off what?

Off the Western wall, bhante.

[18][pts][wp][ati] And if there is no Western wall, beggars, off what does it reflect?

Off the earth, bhante.

[19][pts][wp][ati] And if there is no earth, beggars, off what does it reflect?

Off the water, bhante.

[20][pts][wp][ati] And if there is no water, off what does it reflect?

It would not reflect, bhante.

[21][pts][wp][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is no lust for edible food,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[22][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is no lust for the food that is sense stimulation,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[23][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is no lust for the food that is intention,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

[24][pts][ati] Even so, beggars, where there is no lust for the food that is consciousness,
where there is no delight,
where there is no hunger and thirst,
no stand for the growth of consciousness results.

Where there is no stand for the growth of consciousness,
then there is no appearance of name and form.
Where there is no appearance of name and form,
then there is no sowing of own-making.
Where there is no sowing of own-making,
then there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return.
Where there is no scope for the again-becoming of further-return,
then there is no scope for birth, aging and death.
Where there is no scope for birth, aging and death,
that is without grief beggars, without fear, it is without trouble, say I.

 


[1](sankaraming -- interesting that here the order is not the usual avijja>sankaram>vinnana>nama/rupa; but apparently ~vinnana>nama/rupa>sankaram; but this is not a rigid formula as I see it, it circles around within itself as well as describes a straight line to dukkha)

[2]Peaked roof where the beams meet at the center and support each other as opposed to a house with a center pole where the pole would obstruct the beam of light.

 

References:

Samyutta Nikaya, Nidanavagga, Nidanasamyutta, #63: Puttama.msa, II.97 and #64: Atthiraago, pp101


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