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Sa.myutta Nikaaya:
IV. Sa.laayatana Vagga:
43: Asa'nkhata Sa.myutta.m

Sutta 3

Saariputta-Ko.t.thika (or Pagata, or Upagata) Sutta.m

Saariputta-Ko.t.thika (1)

Translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi

"OoBhikkhu Bodhi 2000., The Connected Discourses of the Buddha (Wisdom Publications, 2000)
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[1][pts][than] On one occasion the Venerable Saariputta and the Venerable Maha Ko.t.thika were dwelling at Baaraa.nasii in the Deer Park at Isipatana.

Then, in the evening, the Venerable Maha Ko.t.thika emerged from seclusion and approached the Venerable Saariputta.

He exchanged greetings with the Venerable Saariputta and, when they had concluded their greetings and cordial talk, he sat down to one side and said to him:

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata exist after death?"

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata exists after death.'"

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata not exist after death?"

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata does not exist after death.'"

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death?"

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death.'"

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death?"

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this either:

'The Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.'"

"How is this, friend?

When asked:

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata exist after death?"

you say:

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata exists after death.'"

When asked:

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata not exist after death?"

you say:

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata does not exist after death.'"

When asked:

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death?"

you say:

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this:

'The Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death.'"

When asked:

"How is it, friend Saariputta, does the Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death?"

you say:

"Friend, the Blessed One has not declared this either:

'The Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.'"

What now, friend, is the cause and reason why this has not been declared by the Blessed One?"

"'The Tathaagata exists after death':

this, friend, is an involvement with form.

'The Tathaagata does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with form.

'The Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with form.

'The Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with form.

"'The Tathaagata exists after death':

this, friend, is an involvement with feeling

... an involvement with perception ...

an involvement with volitional formations ...

an involvement with consciousness.

'The Tathaagata does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with consciousness.

'The Tathaagata both exists and does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with consciousness.

'The Tathaagata neither exists nor does not exist after death':

this is an involvement with consciousness.

"This, friend, is the cause and reason why this has not been declared by the Blessed One."


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