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#### Aṅguttara Nikāya
Chakka Nipāta
V. Dhammika Vagga

#### The Book of Sixes

#### Sutta 48

#### Dutiya Sandiṭṭhika Suttaṁ

# To Be Seen for One's Self 2

Translated from the Pāḷi
by
Michael M. Olds

[1][pts] I Hear Tell:

Once upon a time The Lucky Man,
Sāvatthī-town revisiting,
Jeta Grove,
Anāthapiṇḍika's Park.

There then, a brahman approached The Lucky Man and drew near.

Having drawn near, he gave salutation.

Having given salutation,
having exchanged greetings,
he took a seat to one side.

Seated to one side then, the brahman said this to The Lucky Man:

"A 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma.

A 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma.

This, good Gotama, is what they say.

In what way then, good Gotama, is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision?"

"In this case brahman what is required is a counter-question
and you should make such response
as seems fit to you.

What to you think brahman?

There being lust within,
is this known:

'There is lust within me?'"

There being no lust within,
is this known:

'There is no lust within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being lust within,
this is known:
'There is lust within me,'
there being no lust within,
this is known:
'There is no lust within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision.

What to you think brahman?

There being hate within,
is this known:

'There is hate within me?'"

There being no hate within,
is this known:

'There is no hate within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being hate within,
this is known:
'There is hate within me,'
there being no hate within,
this is known:
'There is no hate within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision.

What to you think brahman?

There being confusion within,
is this known:

'There is confusion within me?'"

There being no confusion within,
is this known:

'There is no confusion within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being confusion within,
this is known:
'There is confusion within me,'
there being no confusion within,
this is known:
'There is no confusion within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision.

What to you think brahman?

There being confusion with regard to body within,
is this known:

'There is confusion with regard to body within me?'"

There being no confusion with regard to body within,
is this known:

'There is no confusion with regard to body within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being confusion with regard to body within,
this is known:
'There is confusion with regard to body within me,'
there being no confusion with regard to body within,
this is known:
'There is no confusion with regard to body within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision.

What to you think brahman?

There being confusion with regard to speech within,
is this known:

'There is confusion with regard to speech within me?'"

There being no confusion with regard to speech within,
is this known:

'There is no confusion with regard to speech within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being confusion with regard to speech within,
this is known:
'There is confusion with regard to speech within me,'
there being no confusion with regard to speech within,
this is known:
'There is no confusion with regard to speech within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision.

What to you think brahman?

There being mental-confusion within,
is this known:

'There is mental-confusion within me?'"

There being no mental-confusion within,
is this known:

'There is no mental-confusion within me.'?"

"Even so, good Gotama."

"Whenever brahman
there being mental-confusion within,
this is known:
'There is mental-confusion within me,'
there being no mental-confusion within,
this is known:
'There is no mental-confusion within me,'
then in this way brahman
is there a 'to-be-seen-for-one's-self' Dhamma,
timeless,
inviting 'come, see!',
to be experienced individually through vision."

"Wonderful, Master Gotama!

Wonderful, Master Gotama!

It is, Master Gotama, as though the turned-down were over-turned;
the lost were told the way,
an oil-lamp were brought into the darkness
so that those with eyes in their heads could see shapes.

Thus thusly Master Gotama has shown Dhamma with not simply one exposition.

I go to The Lucky Man for refuge
and to the Dhamma
and to the Order of Beggars.

Having been given life this day,
remember me as a follower
who has taken refuge in the Venerable Gotama.

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