Saɱyutta Nikāya
3. Khandha Vagga
22. Khandha Saɱyutta
9. Thera Vagga
The Connected Discourses of the Buddha
Part II.
The Book of the Aggregates Khandha-Vagga
22. Connected Discourses on the Aggregates
2.4. The Elders
Sutta 89
Khemaka Suttaɱ
Khemaka
Translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi
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[1][pts][than] On one occasion a number of elder bhikkhus were dwelling at Kosambī in Ghosita's Park.
Now on that occasion the Venerable Khemaka was living at Jujube Tree Park, sick, afflicted, gravely ill.
[127] Then, in the evening, those elder bhikkhus emerged from seclusion and addressed the Venerable Dāsaka thus:
"Come, friend Dāsaka, approach the bhikkhu Khemaka and say to him:
'The elders say to you, friend Khemaka:
'We hope that you are bearing up, friend, we hope that you are getting better.
We hope that your painful feelings are subsiding and not increasing, and that their subsiding, not their increase, is to be discerned.'"
"Yes, friends," the Venerable Dāsaka replied, and he approached the Venerable Khemaka and delivered his message.
[The Venerable Khemaka answered:]
"I am not bearing up, friend, I am not getting better.
Strong painful feelings are increasing in me, not subsiding, and their increase, not their subsiding, is to be discerned."
Then the Venerable Dāsaka approached the elder bhikkhus and reported what the Venerable Khemaka had said.
They told him:
"Come, friend Dāsaka, approach the bhikkhu Khemaka and say to him:
'The elders say to you, friend Khemaka:
'These five aggregates subject to clinging, friend, have been spoken of by the Blessed One; that is, the form aggregate subject to clinging, the feeling aggregate subject to clinging, the perception aggregate subject to clinging, the volitional formations aggregate subject to clinging, the consciousness aggregate subject to clinging.
Does the Venerable Khemaka regard anything as self or as belonging to self among these five aggregates subject to clinging?.'"
"Yes, friends," the Venerable Dāsaka replied, and he approached the Venerable Khemaka and delivered his message.
[The Venerable Khemaka replied:]
[128] "These five aggregates subject to clinging have been spoken of by the Blessed One; that is, the form aggregate subject to clinging ... the consciousness aggregate subject to clinging.
Among these five aggregates subject to clinging, I do not regard anything as self or as belonging to self."
Then the Venerable Dāsaka approached the elder bhikkhus and reported what the Venerable Khemaka had said.
They replied:
"Come, friend Dāsaka, approach the bhikkhu Khemaka and say to him:
'The elders say to you, friend Khemaka:
These five aggregates subject to clinging, friend, have been spoken of by the Blessed One; that is, the form aggregate subject to clinging ... the consciousness aggregate subject to clinging.
If the Venerable Khemaka does not regard anything among these five aggregates subject to clinging as self or as belonging to self, then he is an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed.'"
"Yes, friends," the Venerable Dāsaka replied, and he approached the Venerable Khemaka and delivered his message.
[The Venerable Khemaka replied:]
"These five aggregates subject to clinging have been spoken of by the Blessed One; that is, the form aggregate subject to clinging ... the consciousness aggregate subject to clinging. I do not regard anything among these five aggregates subject to clinging as self or as belonging to self, yet I am not an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed.
Friends, [the notion] 'I am' has not yet vanished in me in relation to these five aggregates subject to clinging, but I do not regard [anything among them] as 'This I am."
[129] Then the Venerable Dāsaka approached the elder bhikkhus and reported what the Venerable Khemaka had said.
They replied:
"Come, friend Dāsaka, approach the bhikkhu Khemaka and say to him:
'The elders say to you, friend Khemaka:
Friend Khemaka, when you speak of this "I am," — what is it that you speak of as "I am"?
Do you speak of form as "I am," or do you speak of "I am" apart from form?
Do you speak of feeling ... of perception ... of volitional formations ... of consciousness as "I am," or do you speak of "I am" apart from consciousness?
When you speak of this "I am." friend Khemaka, what is it that you speak of as "I am"?."
"Yes, friends," the Venerable Dāsaka replied, and he approached the Venerable Khemaka and delivered his message.
"Enough, friend Dāsaka!
Why keep running back and forth?
Bring me my staff, friend.
I'll go to the elder bhikkhus myself."
Then the Venerable Khemaka, leaning on his staff, approached the elder bhikkhus, exchanged greetings with them, and sat down to one side.
[130] The elder bhikkhus then said to him:
"Friend Khemaka, when you speak of this 'I am' ... what is it that you speak of as 'I am'?"
"Friends, I do not speak of form as 'I am,' nor do I speak of 'I am' apart from form.
I do not speak of feeling as 'I am' ... nor of perception as 'I am' ... nor of volitional formations as 'I am' ... nor of consciousness as 'I am,' nor do I speak of 'I am' apart from consciousness.
Friends, although [the notion] 'I am' has not yet vanished in me in relation to these five aggregates subject to clinging, still I do not regard [anything among them] as 'This I am.'
"Suppose, friends, there is the scent of a blue, red, or white lotus.
Would one be speaking rightly if one would say, 'The scent belongs to the petals,' or 'The scent belongs to the stalk,' or 'The scent belongs to the pistils'?"
"No, friend."
"And how, friends, should one answer if one is to answer rightly?"
"Answering rightly, friend, one should answer:
'The scent belongs to the flower."
"So too, friends, I do not speak of form as 'I am,' nor do I speak of 'I am' apart from form.
I do not speak of feeling as 'I am' ... nor of perception as 'I am' ... nor of volitional formations as 'I am' ... nor of consciousness as 'I am,' nor do I speak of 'I am' apart from consciousness.
Friends, although [the notion] 'I am' has not yet vanished in me in relation to these five aggregates subject to clinging, still I do not regard [anything among them] as 'This I am.'
"Friends, even though a noble disciple has abandoned the five lower fetters, still, in relation to the five aggregates subject to clinging, there lingers in him a residual conceit 'I am,' a desire 'I am,' an underlying tendency 'I am' that has not yet been uprooted.
Sometime later he dwells contemplating rise and fall in the five aggregates subject to clinging:
'Such is form, such its origin, [131] such its passing away; such is feeling ... such is perception ... such are volitional formations ... such is consciousness, such its origin, such its passing away.'
As he dwells thus contemplating rise and fall in the five aggregates subject to clinging, the residual conceit 'I am,' the desire 'I am,' the underlying tendency 'I am' that had not yet been uprooted — this comes to be uprooted.
"Suppose, friends, a cloth has become soiled and stained, and its owners give it to a laundryman.
The laundryman would scour it evenly with cleaning salt, lye, or cowdung, and rinse it in clean water.
Even though that cloth would become pure and clean, it would still retain a residual smell of cleaning salt, lye, or cowdung that had not yet vanished.
The laundryman would then give it back to the owners.
The owners would put it in a sweet-scented casket, and the residual smell of cleaning salt, lye, or cowdung that had not yet vanished would vanish.
"So too, friends, even though a noble disciple has abandoned the five lower fetters, still, in relation to the five aggregates subject to clinging, there lingers in him a residual conceit 'I am,' a desire 'I am,' an underlying tendency 'I am' that has not yet been uprooted. ...
As he dwells thus contemplating rise and fall in the five aggregates subject to clinging, the residual conceit 'I am,' the desire 'I am,' the underlying tendency 'I am' that had not yet been uprooted — this comes to be uprooted."
When this was said, the elder bhikkhus said to the Venerable Khemaka:
"We did not ask our questions in order to trouble the Venerable Khemaka, [132] but we thought that the Venerable Khemaka would be capable of explaining, teaching, proclaiming, establishing, disclosing, analysing, and elucidating the Blessed One's teaching in detail.
And the Venerable Khemaka has explained, taught, proclaimed, established, disclosed, analysed, and elucidated the Blessed One's teaching in detail."
This is what the Venerable Khemaka said.
Elated, the elder bhikkhus delighted in the Venerable Khemaka's statement.
And while this discourse was being spoken, the minds of sixty elder bhikkhus and of the Venerable Khemaka were liberated from the taints by nonclinging.
